Didn’t the NYT article indicate they spoke with like 30+ employees? Or did I misinterpret that or misread it?
chumpandchive on
birds of a feather
reformingindividual on
Interesting. There is no fallibility to the NYT article at this point. If it was just Jason this would mean something but after the NYT article Jason’s motives don’t mean too much. It’s bigger than him now
DefiantBumblebee9903 on
two things can be true- I’ve met both Jason and his wife multiple times. I do believe Jason has been down some dark paths and I think Jason’s history following Noma was a bit sketchy to be completely honest. I also believe Rene is an asshole abuser and the stories in the NYT are true.
moronsreverywhere on
Not like an ex wife doesn’t have an axe to grind. No one has disputed that Rene assaulted and abused his workers. NYT article confirmed as such and it happened over a long period of time. Doesn’t matter what campaign or defense the Noma PR machine puts up. Rene Redzepi’s behavior is unacceptable
pWasHere on
Ultimately this is bigger than Jason now. If she doesn’t want to talk about the many other allegations that have been made at this point then I don’t care how LIVID she is, she is on the obvious wrong side.
protopigeon on
Many many people have come forward about the abuse they experienced at NOMA. Are they all liars now?
This stinks to high heaven, she obviously has wider issues with him and now she’s blaming victims? Fuck out of here.
Carlsincharge__ on
They can’t discredit the article so they’re trying to discredit him. Even if true it’s bigger than him. And if it is true then hold them both accountable. This does not give Noma a pass for anything
stereoph0bic on
Nice try OP.
Itchy_Brief_9994 on
This is so so stupid. Did Rene physically assault staff for literal decades? THE ANSWER IS YES. You can say all the things you want, but the evidence is there and has been proven time and time again. Has he ever once admitted to or apologized for physically assaulting staff? NO.
Every single other thing in this thread is completely irrelevant.
– one if the accusers is also an abuser – doesn’t matter
– Rene admitted to being a bully – doesn’t matter
– people learned a shit ton and got other good jobs from working there – doesn’t matter
– it took many years to confirm these claims – doesn’t matter
– other restaurants do this – doesn’t matter
etc etc
This is about Rene and the cycle of accepted physical assault at Noma, nothing more. If you want to research and develop a story based on any of those other things, go for it. But they’re seperate stories.
SlappyMcGillicuddy on
No perfect victim. Jason’s issues don’t take away from Rene’s issues
No-Lifeguard-5308 on
It’s crazy to me that we can watch this exact same train wreck happen across so many industries, so many times, and people will still willfully get it so, so wrong.
“Well I PERSONALLY had a very positive experience working on Harvey Weinstein’s movie!! And Lupita Nyongo seems like a brat!”
“Well I PERSONALLY love R. Kelly’s music, and there’s two sides to every story!”
People are very complicated, and sometimes it takes them years to develop themselves out of their worst habits, and sometimes they never do. But in the meantime, all of the [sometimes equally complicated] people that they harmed, are hurting. The victims are hurting. And working on yourself in therapy to be a better boss for THE NEXT team member, stage, actor, fan, girlfriend, whomever in your life, is great and all FOR THEM, but it does very little to help bring peace to the people that you’ve left in the wake of your chaos.
Almost every adult has dated a Rene Redzepi. Someone who was a total basket case through the entire relationship, who spent months or years only fucking up your peace, costing you money and sanity, and who, years later, goes to therapy and parades about as an enlightened, better person.
Love that for him. Love that for his future relationships. But getting better at yoga and public relations is not the same as repairing decades of harm practiced upon dozens of victims, whom you’ve made no effort to help heal.
sealonbrad on
Shits getting messy
Vegetable-Choice-523 on
Lol yeah what about the other 35+ employees. Stop being delusional and this goes for every restaurant because I can guarantee you they aren’t the only one, just talked about because it’s the most famous restaurant in the world and it did this anywhere else you wouldn’t get a job unfortunately.
taint_odour on
The chef would ask you lick the boot before sucking on the reindeer peen on a rock.
C’mon. There are no perfect victims and one douchebag doesn’t discount the other 30 people.
This old school bullshit needs to change and the industry needs to adapt to survive. I love this business and I love fine dining but I hate seeing apologists come up with every logical fallacy to defend their guy.
Nihilistic_Marmot on
Attacking the messenger is not the way to show growth. This reads like paid damage control/shooting the messenger to dilute the message.
Due_Discount_9144 on
What’s her instagram handle?
FunAd6875 on
God damn, someone grab the popcorn
Cool_Flatworm_3450 on
René Redzepi still an abuser!
brooklynite on
I believe the stories in the NYT.
I also believe that Jason has a vendetta against noma and Rene that is personally driven and the “change the industry” charge is cover for much of the damage he is seeking.
He had briefly posted a story some days ago with “allegations” that bringing ferments for noma LA was some massive FDA violation and he suggested in his own comments “blowing that whistle.” I commented that this seemed petty and counter to the clear message he was seeking about abuse and labor and the story was deleted in minutes – less than 5 – after I messaged him.
Now he seems to be returning from an international trip with fermented products.
Rene did wrong. I feel “noma” did not – they’re not the source of a free labor issue.
I think what Jason is doing will have significant collateral harm on people who have been close to Rene or worked at noma and much of that can be as harmful as what he alleges.
But seriously, guy projects as a psychopath right now.
Educational_Talk_668 on
foodies in shambles
making gods out of fkn chefs… this what you get
Turbulent_Interest63 on
Aren’t these screenshots from the person who posted it?? Is OP the ex-wife??
Hav0c_wreack3r on
I’m starting to thing OP is directly related to Rene or has some skin in the game.
Stop defending everyone’s arguments against this guy. It’s not cute.
Flymetoyourmom on
Give your balls a tug.
Fickle-Pin-1679 on
Yep, I posted this too a couple days ago and everyone ignored it
Wkurikong on
S H I L L
Equivalent-Role4632 on
I use to deliver furniture to Noma. I can assure you there was not a single person there who weren’t a complete shithead.
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Didn’t the NYT article indicate they spoke with like 30+ employees? Or did I misinterpret that or misread it?
birds of a feather
Interesting. There is no fallibility to the NYT article at this point. If it was just Jason this would mean something but after the NYT article Jason’s motives don’t mean too much. It’s bigger than him now
two things can be true- I’ve met both Jason and his wife multiple times. I do believe Jason has been down some dark paths and I think Jason’s history following Noma was a bit sketchy to be completely honest. I also believe Rene is an asshole abuser and the stories in the NYT are true.
Not like an ex wife doesn’t have an axe to grind. No one has disputed that Rene assaulted and abused his workers. NYT article confirmed as such and it happened over a long period of time. Doesn’t matter what campaign or defense the Noma PR machine puts up. Rene Redzepi’s behavior is unacceptable
Ultimately this is bigger than Jason now. If she doesn’t want to talk about the many other allegations that have been made at this point then I don’t care how LIVID she is, she is on the obvious wrong side.
Many many people have come forward about the abuse they experienced at NOMA. Are they all liars now?
This stinks to high heaven, she obviously has wider issues with him and now she’s blaming victims? Fuck out of here.
They can’t discredit the article so they’re trying to discredit him. Even if true it’s bigger than him. And if it is true then hold them both accountable. This does not give Noma a pass for anything
Nice try OP.
This is so so stupid. Did Rene physically assault staff for literal decades? THE ANSWER IS YES. You can say all the things you want, but the evidence is there and has been proven time and time again. Has he ever once admitted to or apologized for physically assaulting staff? NO.
Every single other thing in this thread is completely irrelevant.
– one if the accusers is also an abuser – doesn’t matter
– Rene admitted to being a bully – doesn’t matter
– people learned a shit ton and got other good jobs from working there – doesn’t matter
– it took many years to confirm these claims – doesn’t matter
– other restaurants do this – doesn’t matter
etc etc
This is about Rene and the cycle of accepted physical assault at Noma, nothing more. If you want to research and develop a story based on any of those other things, go for it. But they’re seperate stories.
No perfect victim. Jason’s issues don’t take away from Rene’s issues
It’s crazy to me that we can watch this exact same train wreck happen across so many industries, so many times, and people will still willfully get it so, so wrong.
“Well I PERSONALLY had a very positive experience working on Harvey Weinstein’s movie!! And Lupita Nyongo seems like a brat!”
“Well I PERSONALLY love R. Kelly’s music, and there’s two sides to every story!”
People are very complicated, and sometimes it takes them years to develop themselves out of their worst habits, and sometimes they never do. But in the meantime, all of the [sometimes equally complicated] people that they harmed, are hurting. The victims are hurting. And working on yourself in therapy to be a better boss for THE NEXT team member, stage, actor, fan, girlfriend, whomever in your life, is great and all FOR THEM, but it does very little to help bring peace to the people that you’ve left in the wake of your chaos.
Almost every adult has dated a Rene Redzepi. Someone who was a total basket case through the entire relationship, who spent months or years only fucking up your peace, costing you money and sanity, and who, years later, goes to therapy and parades about as an enlightened, better person.
Love that for him. Love that for his future relationships. But getting better at yoga and public relations is not the same as repairing decades of harm practiced upon dozens of victims, whom you’ve made no effort to help heal.
Shits getting messy
Lol yeah what about the other 35+ employees. Stop being delusional and this goes for every restaurant because I can guarantee you they aren’t the only one, just talked about because it’s the most famous restaurant in the world and it did this anywhere else you wouldn’t get a job unfortunately.
The chef would ask you lick the boot before sucking on the reindeer peen on a rock.
C’mon. There are no perfect victims and one douchebag doesn’t discount the other 30 people.
This old school bullshit needs to change and the industry needs to adapt to survive. I love this business and I love fine dining but I hate seeing apologists come up with every logical fallacy to defend their guy.
Attacking the messenger is not the way to show growth. This reads like paid damage control/shooting the messenger to dilute the message.
What’s her instagram handle?
God damn, someone grab the popcorn
René Redzepi still an abuser!
I believe the stories in the NYT.
I also believe that Jason has a vendetta against noma and Rene that is personally driven and the “change the industry” charge is cover for much of the damage he is seeking.
He had briefly posted a story some days ago with “allegations” that bringing ferments for noma LA was some massive FDA violation and he suggested in his own comments “blowing that whistle.” I commented that this seemed petty and counter to the clear message he was seeking about abuse and labor and the story was deleted in minutes – less than 5 – after I messaged him.
Now he seems to be returning from an international trip with fermented products.
Rene did wrong. I feel “noma” did not – they’re not the source of a free labor issue.
I think what Jason is doing will have significant collateral harm on people who have been close to Rene or worked at noma and much of that can be as harmful as what he alleges.
But seriously, guy projects as a psychopath right now.
foodies in shambles
making gods out of fkn chefs… this what you get
Aren’t these screenshots from the person who posted it?? Is OP the ex-wife??
I’m starting to thing OP is directly related to Rene or has some skin in the game.
Stop defending everyone’s arguments against this guy. It’s not cute.
Give your balls a tug.
Yep, I posted this too a couple days ago and everyone ignored it
S H I L L
I use to deliver furniture to Noma. I can assure you there was not a single person there who weren’t a complete shithead.