Is this wrong? I have brought this point up to some people on this sub just to be met with strong disagreement. I feel like this needs to be discussed because some people have the wrong mindset. Too focused on quantitative details.

For weight loss, it’s strictly the amount of calories regardless of whether or not they’re nutritionally balanced. You can lose weight on just McDonald’s and coke if you’re expending more calories than you’re eating. This subreddit is strictly focused on quantitative measurement of calories.

This is literally a calorie counting sub centered around eating 1200 calories a day, naturally people are focused on calories. There are other subs about focusing on balanced diets, macronutrients, protein, etc. This isn’t the place for that

If i want to drink 10 tablespoon of olive oil to reach my 1200 calories goal, it’s my right as an idiot to do so.

The point you made in the picture is wrong when it’s concerning weight loss. CICO is king. Nutritionally dense and fibre-rich foods probably help the journey by increasing satiety, and the added health benefits are a nice bonus. Feeling full is, in my opinion, something that mentally helps people deal with less calories, but it’s not something that directly aids weight loss.

If the point is regarding health, then you’re probably correct. Although “far more important” might be overstating the important of quality. I can gorge myself on any diet to create an unhealthy amount of weight, so quantity definitely plays an important role. And a healthy weight is pretty important for health.

You should read up on the “twinkie diet”, it illustrates these points fairly well, and it addresses some other points like being able to lose weight on McDonalds and coke (you 100% can, CICO is king for weight loss).

You know, I think everyone agrees with you that nutrition is important and optimally we’d go straight into a whole foods diet — but it’s not realistic for most people and gunning for perfect is just too much of a lifestyle overhaul for it to be sustainable.

When I first started trying to lose weight, keeping the calories low was the first priority and already such a major change. I would have 100% fallen off the wagon if I couldn’t eat things that satisfied my cravings through stuff like ultra processed low-cal treats. It’s a long process and it took ages before I figured out what worked best for me. And you kinda need to learn it yourself sometimes through trial and error, so that your body knows what your brain knows.

It’s okay if this sub might just be a stepping stone into a more healthy lifestyle for some people, that it may be the end state for others, and it’s okay that it isn’t for you. I’d recommend you check out /r/1200realfood instead — it’s much less active than the main sub but there’s some good content in there. I’m also a big fan of /r/plantbaseddiet for recipe inspiration (despite eating animal protein myself).

Yeah check out some of the OP post history. Just wants to argue and get attention.

I also believe that generally, the quality of your food is far more important. But for a sub like this where you’re strictly trying to weight loss it’s the quantity. Because even if you eat a McDonald’s burger and chips and that’s all, you will lose weight as opposed 3 full meals, with snacks and dessert. However I think it’s important to balance the two so you don’t end up binging to compensate.

The funny thing is OP is right, and everyone is just talking past him/her to blurt out their CICO mantra. CICO isn’t wrong, but people are focused on it without thinking about HOW you should take your calories. It’s like someone going “well building a wealth starts with a good mindset of saving regularly and investing” and an idiot comes along and screams “NO WRONG wealth is only about money in money out bro. MONEY IN MONEY OUT. MIMO. MIMO. Nothing else. PERIOD. Money in Money OUT. MIMO! YOU’re WRONG”